Doctor Who 8x07 & 8x08 Thoughts
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iaria8x07 'Kill the Moon'
Meh, it was okay.
+ One thing that really bugged me was that it should have been Courtney who pressed the button at the end. Okay, granted she did get her finger on it to press it but only a second after Clara had already done it. It should have been the other way. With all the 'special' discussion at the beginning it only makes sense that she would be the one to do it - starting the episode doubting herself and ending it having saved the creature and humanity's future. That's pretty special. It was nice to see her again.
+ I actually didn't have a huge problem with the Doctor leaving them to make the decision in itself. Yes, he was an ass the way he did it but I thought it fit Twelve's personality. The bigger issue for me isn't that he left it's that he didn't give them all the facts before he left. Or not 'facts' if he truly didn't know what would happen (I believe him) but he had theories, such as eggs not damaging their nest and he really offered them no insight into the situation. That's a bit beyond being an asshole considering the consequences of their decision and a lot to hang on Clara's (and the others) shoulders. But I liked him leaving this giant decision up to humans instead of unilaterally making it himself. (If only because of his complete belief in Clara.)
+ I loved the Doctor's awe/delight at learning the moon was an egg and him calling it beautiful. It's been awhile since we've seen him like that with some new creature and I've always loved that aspect of the Doctor.
+ I also liked the Doctor on the beach 'feeling' the time stream change and seeing where it would lead.
+ I found this being Clara's tipping point - off. I understood why she was angry - her fear and worry during the situation translating into anger, the shock and anger over him abandoning her, the anger over putting Courtney in danger and of not giving them all the information needed to make the right decision - she has a lot of reason to be angry! But it just felt a bit too extreme to me. Her lashing out about feeling condescended to felt weird because I don't understand how his actions were condescending.
+ I liked that the decision in the end came down to three women.
+ The science and logic was really, really bad. Even for this show. Same with the entire situation with the miners and there being no shuttles and lack of astronauts. Nothing made any sense.
+ I really wish that the Earth hadn't gone entirely dark. It shouldn't have been so unilateral a decision.
8x08 'Mummy on the Orient Express'
I enjoyed this episode much more.
+ Clara looked fabulous. I loved her dress.
+ I enjoyed the Doctor/Clara interactions.
+ The Doctor having a discussion/argument with himself amused me.
+ I enjoyed the Doctor/Perkins interactions and I loved the Doctor offering Perkins a chance to stay on (even if he said no).
+ That's twice now (if I haven't forgotten anyone) with the doctor knowing a person is going to die immediately, not bothering to try and save there or to offer sympathy/regret but instead trying to use them for the greater good in a pretty callous manner. Yes, greater good but his bedside manner is supremely horrible.
+ "You knew this was dangerous!" - Clara
"I didn't knooow. I certainly hoped." - Doctor
LOL.
+ Wait, so is Clara lying to both Danny and the Doctor? Did I miss something? Is this tying in to her questioning him about being addicted to the life and thus indicating that Clara is addicted to it to the point that she's lying to everyone, perhaps ever herself, in order to keep doing it? I guess I just can't understand why she's lying. Danny seems pretty chill and understanding and I think he would be fine with her continuing on, or at least not leave her for it or anything.
Meh, it was okay.
+ One thing that really bugged me was that it should have been Courtney who pressed the button at the end. Okay, granted she did get her finger on it to press it but only a second after Clara had already done it. It should have been the other way. With all the 'special' discussion at the beginning it only makes sense that she would be the one to do it - starting the episode doubting herself and ending it having saved the creature and humanity's future. That's pretty special. It was nice to see her again.
+ I actually didn't have a huge problem with the Doctor leaving them to make the decision in itself. Yes, he was an ass the way he did it but I thought it fit Twelve's personality. The bigger issue for me isn't that he left it's that he didn't give them all the facts before he left. Or not 'facts' if he truly didn't know what would happen (I believe him) but he had theories, such as eggs not damaging their nest and he really offered them no insight into the situation. That's a bit beyond being an asshole considering the consequences of their decision and a lot to hang on Clara's (and the others) shoulders. But I liked him leaving this giant decision up to humans instead of unilaterally making it himself. (If only because of his complete belief in Clara.)
+ I loved the Doctor's awe/delight at learning the moon was an egg and him calling it beautiful. It's been awhile since we've seen him like that with some new creature and I've always loved that aspect of the Doctor.
+ I also liked the Doctor on the beach 'feeling' the time stream change and seeing where it would lead.
+ I found this being Clara's tipping point - off. I understood why she was angry - her fear and worry during the situation translating into anger, the shock and anger over him abandoning her, the anger over putting Courtney in danger and of not giving them all the information needed to make the right decision - she has a lot of reason to be angry! But it just felt a bit too extreme to me. Her lashing out about feeling condescended to felt weird because I don't understand how his actions were condescending.
+ I liked that the decision in the end came down to three women.
+ The science and logic was really, really bad. Even for this show. Same with the entire situation with the miners and there being no shuttles and lack of astronauts. Nothing made any sense.
+ I really wish that the Earth hadn't gone entirely dark. It shouldn't have been so unilateral a decision.
8x08 'Mummy on the Orient Express'
I enjoyed this episode much more.
+ Clara looked fabulous. I loved her dress.
+ I enjoyed the Doctor/Clara interactions.
+ The Doctor having a discussion/argument with himself amused me.
+ I enjoyed the Doctor/Perkins interactions and I loved the Doctor offering Perkins a chance to stay on (even if he said no).
+ That's twice now (if I haven't forgotten anyone) with the doctor knowing a person is going to die immediately, not bothering to try and save there or to offer sympathy/regret but instead trying to use them for the greater good in a pretty callous manner. Yes, greater good but his bedside manner is supremely horrible.
+ "You knew this was dangerous!" - Clara
"I didn't knooow. I certainly hoped." - Doctor
LOL.
+ Wait, so is Clara lying to both Danny and the Doctor? Did I miss something? Is this tying in to her questioning him about being addicted to the life and thus indicating that Clara is addicted to it to the point that she's lying to everyone, perhaps ever herself, in order to keep doing it? I guess I just can't understand why she's lying. Danny seems pretty chill and understanding and I think he would be fine with her continuing on, or at least not leave her for it or anything.
