Haven 5x14 - 5x16 Thoughts
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iaria5x14 'New World Order'
It was okay.
+ I like that Audrey decided to go with Duke but, and I can't believe I'm saying this, wouldn't it be better for her to go with Nathan to help with the multitude of Troubles just released?
+ I love that we got Audrey showing concern and care for Duke and Nathan showing his care too. The Nathan/Duke hug was lovely (though boo on no Audrey/Duke one.) But Duke spends the episode subsumed by his guilt and self-loathing and neither of them do a very good job of helping him. They don't even really try until the end and then it's very little far too late. When Duke tells Audrey "It's because of me." she says nothing and I don't understand it. That's where she should have said 'no it's Mara's fault.' Should have reassured him. It bothered me that she just let him leave. Nathan also says nothing when Duke gets all self-blamey. I really feel like both of them failed Duke here.
+ "Far away from Dwight and Nathan and... you." - Duke. I really liked this little slight acknowledgement of his feelings for her.
+ I realise that Duke is feeling a lot of guilt but if he wants to help things leaking that guilt all over the place and opening himself up to the recrimination and hate of everyone else, that he thinks he deserves, by being 'truthful' is not the way to do it. And running away is also way not the right way.
+ You'd think that they'd have purposefully encouraged the Guard into taking important positions in the town especially in the police. I did like the scene of Dwight explaining the Troubles to the cops.
+ "I need a beer. Tequila makes me thirsty." - Gloria. LOL. I love her. She keeps illegal tequila in a morgue drawer and then drinks with Dave and has a banana bag ready and waiting.
5x15 'Power'
Meh
+ I did love that moment of Charlotte comforting Audrey.
+ I liked Audrey using several Troubles to create light. Though why she did it in a hallway instead of a large open space who knows.
+ Also just how many people have died? The town has 25, 000 people and there realistically can't have been more than 1000 or so people in that school. It only looked like maybe a hundred but then budget so let's say 1000. Where are the rest of the people? So much death this season.
+ So despite no one remembering the existence of Haven and it having been wiped from all records, Troubled people do still exist. I wonder if they can enter into Haven? Do those who left Haven remember it and that they are Troubled?
5x16 'The Trial of Nathan Wuornos'
This was an aggravating episode.
+ First - I liked Audrey with Grayson and she knows sign language which is great.
+ Why the hell was Audrey just hanging around the school instead of doing something? Going after Kira and the Aether, looking into the identity of the Darkness Trouble or into the serial killer? Instead she was apparently planning to hang out during the trial as Nathan's moral support. Not even as the person speaking for him/his defence council, he was doing that himself. Ugh.
This is one of the biggest reasons these later seasons haven't worked for me. It's like the show is actively choosing to remove Audrey's agency. She is such a passive character so often now. Hell, Nathan is the one who has to push her into doing something. He brings up solving the darkness Trouble and she protests and declares that she's not leaving him. Which is the other main reason this show doesn't work -- Audrey (and Nathan's) laser focus on each other even to the detriment of others. I don't find it, or them, romantic.
Audrey's "Saving Kira saves you. Whatever gets you out of this." pretty much encompasses everything wrong happening here. You know what saving Kira does? It freaking saves Kira. You know what Audrey does? She saves people, she always chooses to save people. Then she's willing to use Grayson and risk setting off a bunch of Troubles in order to help Nathan escape and Nathan has to plead with her not to do it because people will get hurt. This feels like blatant character assassination at this point. So much hate.
+ The whole trial situation was dumb. Kira died but so did the engineer. Haven is a dangerous town now and they left the school knowing that there was a good chance they could die. He didn't even actively kill Kira. It makes no sense. It especially feels dumb by the end when Tony is revealed to be the one with the darkness Trouble - the one that has terrorising the town for weeks and killed thousands* of people - and yet there he is standing in the crowd. Not being mobbed. Even though everyone has to have known - this is the sort of information that gets around quickly. Are we supposed to buy Nathan's speech of hope changed everyone's attitudes completely? Hmm, no.
*But no seriously Duke says straight out that Haven is a town of 25,000 so where the hell are all those people? I really need an accounting of how many people are alive.
+ Considering how much danger Kira was in Dwight and Charlotte were sure taking their time getting to her.
It was okay.
+ I like that Audrey decided to go with Duke but, and I can't believe I'm saying this, wouldn't it be better for her to go with Nathan to help with the multitude of Troubles just released?
+ I love that we got Audrey showing concern and care for Duke and Nathan showing his care too. The Nathan/Duke hug was lovely (though boo on no Audrey/Duke one.) But Duke spends the episode subsumed by his guilt and self-loathing and neither of them do a very good job of helping him. They don't even really try until the end and then it's very little far too late. When Duke tells Audrey "It's because of me." she says nothing and I don't understand it. That's where she should have said 'no it's Mara's fault.' Should have reassured him. It bothered me that she just let him leave. Nathan also says nothing when Duke gets all self-blamey. I really feel like both of them failed Duke here.
+ "Far away from Dwight and Nathan and... you." - Duke. I really liked this little slight acknowledgement of his feelings for her.
+ I realise that Duke is feeling a lot of guilt but if he wants to help things leaking that guilt all over the place and opening himself up to the recrimination and hate of everyone else, that he thinks he deserves, by being 'truthful' is not the way to do it. And running away is also way not the right way.
+ You'd think that they'd have purposefully encouraged the Guard into taking important positions in the town especially in the police. I did like the scene of Dwight explaining the Troubles to the cops.
+ "I need a beer. Tequila makes me thirsty." - Gloria. LOL. I love her. She keeps illegal tequila in a morgue drawer and then drinks with Dave and has a banana bag ready and waiting.
5x15 'Power'
Meh
+ I did love that moment of Charlotte comforting Audrey.
+ I liked Audrey using several Troubles to create light. Though why she did it in a hallway instead of a large open space who knows.
+ Also just how many people have died? The town has 25, 000 people and there realistically can't have been more than 1000 or so people in that school. It only looked like maybe a hundred but then budget so let's say 1000. Where are the rest of the people? So much death this season.
+ So despite no one remembering the existence of Haven and it having been wiped from all records, Troubled people do still exist. I wonder if they can enter into Haven? Do those who left Haven remember it and that they are Troubled?
5x16 'The Trial of Nathan Wuornos'
This was an aggravating episode.
+ First - I liked Audrey with Grayson and she knows sign language which is great.
+ Why the hell was Audrey just hanging around the school instead of doing something? Going after Kira and the Aether, looking into the identity of the Darkness Trouble or into the serial killer? Instead she was apparently planning to hang out during the trial as Nathan's moral support. Not even as the person speaking for him/his defence council, he was doing that himself. Ugh.
This is one of the biggest reasons these later seasons haven't worked for me. It's like the show is actively choosing to remove Audrey's agency. She is such a passive character so often now. Hell, Nathan is the one who has to push her into doing something. He brings up solving the darkness Trouble and she protests and declares that she's not leaving him. Which is the other main reason this show doesn't work -- Audrey (and Nathan's) laser focus on each other even to the detriment of others. I don't find it, or them, romantic.
Audrey's "Saving Kira saves you. Whatever gets you out of this." pretty much encompasses everything wrong happening here. You know what saving Kira does? It freaking saves Kira. You know what Audrey does? She saves people, she always chooses to save people. Then she's willing to use Grayson and risk setting off a bunch of Troubles in order to help Nathan escape and Nathan has to plead with her not to do it because people will get hurt. This feels like blatant character assassination at this point. So much hate.
+ The whole trial situation was dumb. Kira died but so did the engineer. Haven is a dangerous town now and they left the school knowing that there was a good chance they could die. He didn't even actively kill Kira. It makes no sense. It especially feels dumb by the end when Tony is revealed to be the one with the darkness Trouble - the one that has terrorising the town for weeks and killed thousands* of people - and yet there he is standing in the crowd. Not being mobbed. Even though everyone has to have known - this is the sort of information that gets around quickly. Are we supposed to buy Nathan's speech of hope changed everyone's attitudes completely? Hmm, no.
*But no seriously Duke says straight out that Haven is a town of 25,000 so where the hell are all those people? I really need an accounting of how many people are alive.
+ Considering how much danger Kira was in Dwight and Charlotte were sure taking their time getting to her.
