Agents of Shield 7x12 & 7x13 Thoughts
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iariaThe End is At Hand / What We're Fighting For
Overall I liked it.
+ One of my biggest issues was actually the framing device of this being their last mission together. How it's used as a way to create tension felt false and unneeded to me. It kept being brought up and it didn't work for me. Then in the end - why? I think I would have accepted it if the team had been more decimated - if people had died, if more had been trapped in a different timeline. But in the end the entire team, minus Deke who frankly was always on the fringe, made it through. All alive, all in the same timeline, all in the same time. The team breaking up came down to them choosing, during a year time jump, to go in different directions. The whole thing annoys me.
+ It was great to see Fitz again
+ "I like this me too." I do love that Coulson is apparently happy with who he is now. This made me aww. I'm glad that he ended the series in a happy place and comfortable in himself but at the same time this is not what they've been setting up all season. They just skipped over resolving his angst and issues about death and not being human anymore. It made this feel rather hollow and shallow.
+ Kora unfortunately didn't really work for me as a character. I was left mostly neutral about her. I was happy about her end but for Daisy and only in a distant sort of way. I wish she'd worked for me better.
+ FitzSimmons had a daughter! I'm really glad that the big secret was something happy instead of any of the horrible things I imagined. It does make Jemma;s reaction to recovering her memories feel a little extreme in retrospect. Their ending of retiring from SHIELD made complete sense. Considering they have a daughter now and all the crap they've dealt with over the years keeping them apart them wanting to take a step back and live a normal life works. And I felt like there was an implication that they would one day come back to SHIELD (if only as consultants.)
+ Sousa kissing Daisy was really sweet. I like that they ended up together. Daisy ending the series out exploring the universe for SHIELD with her boyfriend and sister was nice.
+ It was nice to see Piper and Flint again. I loved Piper becoming a part of Yo-Yo's SHIELD team with an LMD Davis. It was great to see him (and their banter) even if it was also a little creepy. (Do SHIELD personal at least have to fill out a consent form for being brought back as a robot?) I liked Flint at the new SHIELD school Coulson Academy.
+ Coulson ending the series reunited with his beloved car Lola, now upgraded, was a fun touch.
+ I loved the exchange over their various deaths at their reunion. It was really cute and fun.
+ I liked everyone's little moment of reminiscence about Deke.
+ I liked that finale Daisy/Coulson scene and that they were the last two to leave. "It's funny what can happen when someone believes in you." Aww.
+ I loved Jemma and Daisy's smiles at each other (and Jemma's wink) before Jemma left the meeting, as well as the implication that they've been keeping in touch but I'm so disappointed that we didn't get a hug or even a final scene of just the two of them connecting.
+ I loved Jemma asking if she could have a uniform, Daisy and Deke looking at each other and then just going 'yes' at the same time.
+ One of my favourite things: Victoria Hand being the person who kills Garrett. A+ choice!
+ I loved Mack walking onto the bridge and casually kicking one of the Chronicoms unconscious with a "Nope". Ha.
+ May dropping into the Chronicom bridge with a "the Cavalry" and then her and Coulson kicking butt together was great.
+ I was wondering why we had the empath!May plot this season but I like that it tied into the final solution to defeat the Chronicoms (even if I was ??? about it) and that it also seems to have helped her deal with her emotions in the long run.
+ I liked how this episode tied back into last seasons finale.
+ I loved the Daisy/Coulson and May/Daisy hugs when they were all reunited. I loved May's over-enthusiastic hug.
+ Deke’s fate is actually not that bad and on the whole I liked it. He spent a lot of time in that alternate timeline (over a year) and had his own team of friends who believed in him, he had a close relationship with young Mack and his brother, he had a life. It’s sad that he lost his nana and bobo but at the same time he always loved them more than they loved him, and I’m more sad that he never got the relationship he wanted with them. Him volunteering to stay behind made complete sense because he is very loyal and can be self-sacrificing and he was right that it made more sense for the tech person to stay. I think it would have worked for me better in execution if one of his team had been at the bar showing concretely that he had ties there (even if I was meh on the characters themselves.) The implication that he could become the new head of a decimated SHIELD is kind of great and I wish we’d gotten a look at how things were going for him even if the other characters don’t know.
+ I liked that Deke was the one to come up with the solution for dealing with the Chronicoms in his new timeline.
+ Deke was an absolute sweetheart with Jemma. I loved the gentle care he took with her, the way he was the first to notice her at the bar because he hadn't taken his eyes off her, and the whole scene in the cell was excellent. Deke attempting to act as Fitz was hilariously terrible and I loved him rubbing Jemma's back and reassuring her "I got you, just rest."
+ Daisy: She's not going to stop me getting back Simmons.
Mack: And Deke.
Daisy: Sure.
LOL. It was funny. And I loved Mack bringing up Deke. But at the same time the way Daisy, and the others, are so dismissive of Deke has really bothered me this season. It's weird because I've totally found him deeply annoying at times, and was very ugh about his pining for Daisy, and yet he's apparently one of the characters I care about most now. This exchange made me smile but also get a little mad for Deke. But then Daisy found them and the first thing that happened was her and Deke smiling in relief at each other and hugging and it was really sweet, and it was clear how happy both were to see each other. That made me feel better and when we had a repeat of the above with Deke's "And me" being answered with "Sure" it only amused me.
+ I've been annoyed all season at how the show has mostly ignored Deke's feelings for Daisy so I did like him mentioning in his speech that he just wanted her to be happy.
+ I was disappointed that we didn't get any Fitz reaction to Enoch's death. Maybe he knew already but we should have gotten something.
+ Fitz was absolutely callous about the new timeline, and I get it to a point since he didn't know it or had ever live there and was very focused on saving his world, but it was still rather yikes. Especially since thousands of SHIELD agents had just been murdered. I really appreciated Coulson immediately stepping up to refuse abandoning them.
+ Sybil absolutely should have noticed six of her Chronicoms being taken out by Mack/Sousa and sent more in to kill them. That was just dumb.
+ The resolution to the whole Chronicom plot was very meh:
- WTH was up with transferring May's empathy to the Chronicoms? How? Why would they think that would immediately work? Is... this supposed to be a permanent state now? Do they just feel human emotions now or are they all empaths? What?
- "Friends as we have always been." But have they really? And why would they all make the same decision? And... ?? It would have made more sense to me if they'd contrived a way to transfer Enoch's memories and feelings instead. It also would have given the scene a nice emotional punch.
- And then our team blew up all the ships along with most of the Chronicoms so... ???
- The use of Kora's powers is confusing. First, them being used to power the ship to transmit May's empathy?? Okay. Second, using them to bring Daisy back to life, what the hell? How does that make any sense. Third, she seems to be doing pretty well physically, and seemingly at full power, considering Nathaniel drained her to steal her powers.
- Daisy miraculously somehow being found not only in one piece but unhurt from the ship exploding around her. Even though she was in the centre of it all. Uh huh. I'm glad that she's alive but I'm sorry that is bullshit.
- "We have to let her do her part no matter the cost." – Mack. The fuck, Mack? How does that make sense?! That would work if it was said when they were entering the Chronicom ship and had their own jobs to do but when they're leaving? No.
- Why was the plan for Daisy to blow the ships up, and herself, if they did the whole empathy thing?
- How was Jiaying essential to FitzSimmonsEnoch's plan? What role was she supposed to play in this plan?
Overall I liked it.
+ One of my biggest issues was actually the framing device of this being their last mission together. How it's used as a way to create tension felt false and unneeded to me. It kept being brought up and it didn't work for me. Then in the end - why? I think I would have accepted it if the team had been more decimated - if people had died, if more had been trapped in a different timeline. But in the end the entire team, minus Deke who frankly was always on the fringe, made it through. All alive, all in the same timeline, all in the same time. The team breaking up came down to them choosing, during a year time jump, to go in different directions. The whole thing annoys me.
+ It was great to see Fitz again
+ "I like this me too." I do love that Coulson is apparently happy with who he is now. This made me aww. I'm glad that he ended the series in a happy place and comfortable in himself but at the same time this is not what they've been setting up all season. They just skipped over resolving his angst and issues about death and not being human anymore. It made this feel rather hollow and shallow.
+ Kora unfortunately didn't really work for me as a character. I was left mostly neutral about her. I was happy about her end but for Daisy and only in a distant sort of way. I wish she'd worked for me better.
+ FitzSimmons had a daughter! I'm really glad that the big secret was something happy instead of any of the horrible things I imagined. It does make Jemma;s reaction to recovering her memories feel a little extreme in retrospect. Their ending of retiring from SHIELD made complete sense. Considering they have a daughter now and all the crap they've dealt with over the years keeping them apart them wanting to take a step back and live a normal life works. And I felt like there was an implication that they would one day come back to SHIELD (if only as consultants.)
+ Sousa kissing Daisy was really sweet. I like that they ended up together. Daisy ending the series out exploring the universe for SHIELD with her boyfriend and sister was nice.
+ It was nice to see Piper and Flint again. I loved Piper becoming a part of Yo-Yo's SHIELD team with an LMD Davis. It was great to see him (and their banter) even if it was also a little creepy. (Do SHIELD personal at least have to fill out a consent form for being brought back as a robot?) I liked Flint at the new SHIELD school Coulson Academy.
+ Coulson ending the series reunited with his beloved car Lola, now upgraded, was a fun touch.
+ I loved the exchange over their various deaths at their reunion. It was really cute and fun.
+ I liked everyone's little moment of reminiscence about Deke.
+ I liked that finale Daisy/Coulson scene and that they were the last two to leave. "It's funny what can happen when someone believes in you." Aww.
+ I loved Jemma and Daisy's smiles at each other (and Jemma's wink) before Jemma left the meeting, as well as the implication that they've been keeping in touch but I'm so disappointed that we didn't get a hug or even a final scene of just the two of them connecting.
+ I loved Jemma asking if she could have a uniform, Daisy and Deke looking at each other and then just going 'yes' at the same time.
+ One of my favourite things: Victoria Hand being the person who kills Garrett. A+ choice!
+ I loved Mack walking onto the bridge and casually kicking one of the Chronicoms unconscious with a "Nope". Ha.
+ May dropping into the Chronicom bridge with a "the Cavalry" and then her and Coulson kicking butt together was great.
+ I was wondering why we had the empath!May plot this season but I like that it tied into the final solution to defeat the Chronicoms (even if I was ??? about it) and that it also seems to have helped her deal with her emotions in the long run.
+ I liked how this episode tied back into last seasons finale.
+ I loved the Daisy/Coulson and May/Daisy hugs when they were all reunited. I loved May's over-enthusiastic hug.
+ Deke’s fate is actually not that bad and on the whole I liked it. He spent a lot of time in that alternate timeline (over a year) and had his own team of friends who believed in him, he had a close relationship with young Mack and his brother, he had a life. It’s sad that he lost his nana and bobo but at the same time he always loved them more than they loved him, and I’m more sad that he never got the relationship he wanted with them. Him volunteering to stay behind made complete sense because he is very loyal and can be self-sacrificing and he was right that it made more sense for the tech person to stay. I think it would have worked for me better in execution if one of his team had been at the bar showing concretely that he had ties there (even if I was meh on the characters themselves.) The implication that he could become the new head of a decimated SHIELD is kind of great and I wish we’d gotten a look at how things were going for him even if the other characters don’t know.
+ I liked that Deke was the one to come up with the solution for dealing with the Chronicoms in his new timeline.
+ Deke was an absolute sweetheart with Jemma. I loved the gentle care he took with her, the way he was the first to notice her at the bar because he hadn't taken his eyes off her, and the whole scene in the cell was excellent. Deke attempting to act as Fitz was hilariously terrible and I loved him rubbing Jemma's back and reassuring her "I got you, just rest."
+ Daisy: She's not going to stop me getting back Simmons.
Mack: And Deke.
Daisy: Sure.
LOL. It was funny. And I loved Mack bringing up Deke. But at the same time the way Daisy, and the others, are so dismissive of Deke has really bothered me this season. It's weird because I've totally found him deeply annoying at times, and was very ugh about his pining for Daisy, and yet he's apparently one of the characters I care about most now. This exchange made me smile but also get a little mad for Deke. But then Daisy found them and the first thing that happened was her and Deke smiling in relief at each other and hugging and it was really sweet, and it was clear how happy both were to see each other. That made me feel better and when we had a repeat of the above with Deke's "And me" being answered with "Sure" it only amused me.
+ I've been annoyed all season at how the show has mostly ignored Deke's feelings for Daisy so I did like him mentioning in his speech that he just wanted her to be happy.
+ I was disappointed that we didn't get any Fitz reaction to Enoch's death. Maybe he knew already but we should have gotten something.
+ Fitz was absolutely callous about the new timeline, and I get it to a point since he didn't know it or had ever live there and was very focused on saving his world, but it was still rather yikes. Especially since thousands of SHIELD agents had just been murdered. I really appreciated Coulson immediately stepping up to refuse abandoning them.
+ Sybil absolutely should have noticed six of her Chronicoms being taken out by Mack/Sousa and sent more in to kill them. That was just dumb.
+ The resolution to the whole Chronicom plot was very meh:
- WTH was up with transferring May's empathy to the Chronicoms? How? Why would they think that would immediately work? Is... this supposed to be a permanent state now? Do they just feel human emotions now or are they all empaths? What?
- "Friends as we have always been." But have they really? And why would they all make the same decision? And... ?? It would have made more sense to me if they'd contrived a way to transfer Enoch's memories and feelings instead. It also would have given the scene a nice emotional punch.
- And then our team blew up all the ships along with most of the Chronicoms so... ???
- The use of Kora's powers is confusing. First, them being used to power the ship to transmit May's empathy?? Okay. Second, using them to bring Daisy back to life, what the hell? How does that make any sense. Third, she seems to be doing pretty well physically, and seemingly at full power, considering Nathaniel drained her to steal her powers.
- Daisy miraculously somehow being found not only in one piece but unhurt from the ship exploding around her. Even though she was in the centre of it all. Uh huh. I'm glad that she's alive but I'm sorry that is bullshit.
- "We have to let her do her part no matter the cost." – Mack. The fuck, Mack? How does that make sense?! That would work if it was said when they were entering the Chronicom ship and had their own jobs to do but when they're leaving? No.
- Why was the plan for Daisy to blow the ships up, and herself, if they did the whole empathy thing?
- How was Jiaying essential to FitzSimmonsEnoch's plan? What role was she supposed to play in this plan?
