Haven 3x03 Thoughts
Jul. 20th, 2013 03:13 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
iariaThe Farmer
Wow, that title is so much more unpleasant after actually watching the episode.
• I loved Duke trying to convince Audrey not to give in and accept what she thinks is her destiny. That he chose not to and she can do the same. And then at the end of the episode she basically leads him into doing so. Ouch.
• All the end Audrey/Duke stuff was wonderful, if in a painful way.
First, we have the fact that Duke has confided in Audrey about not wanting to be a killer, about his choice not to follow his family's footsteps. She knows how he feels about it. Yet she still planned and then followed through to get him into a position to kill a Troubled - without telling him. It's a huge betrayal. She broke Duke's trust. Audrey was wrong, full stop, to use Duke in this way.
...But not necessarily wrong in the choice she made. I mean from the beginning she should have told Duke what she wanted and made it his choice. Laid out the facts and let him decide. In the end she did leave it, she did make it his choice - except she knows him, she knows what kind of guy he is and of course he couldn't let those children die.
That said I think Audrey made the right decision here. If this episode was about choice and fate Harry chose to give into his fate. He chose to become a killer. More than that he specifically fathered many children just so that he'd have people to kill/use as organ donors just in case his Trouble manifested. He chose when backed into a corner to kill the child he had raised to save himself.
I think this was actually a very clear and unequivocal case where Duke using his family Trouble to end other families' Troubles is the appropriate thing to do. There was no positive or good side to this trouble. The head of the family was a killer and pretty horrible person who was already dying. There were four kids who would die and many more out there who would have either the potential to manifest this Trouble themselves or pass it down to their children. (Frankly the PTB took the easy route here by making the choice to kill Harry so - acceptable. As moral-right as they could? Harry, a killer, was already going to die and by Duke killing him instead of letting him die slowly he saved not only those kids dying right then but also the countless who could have one day manifested that Trouble.|
It brings me back to a line Audrey had at the beginning of the episode: "I want to help the troubled. It's the one thing I know - I know I want to do." If there is only one true thing Audrey knows about herself it's this. For three lives now, at least, she has returned to Haven to help the Troubled. Her memories are fake but her desire and need to help is very much a part of her. It's both a choice and fate.
... I feel like I was going somewhere with that but now I've lost it.
• I'm pretty impressed with Audrey multitasking skills here - she helped the kids, got rid of a killer/terrible Trouble permanently and managing to push away Duke (as per her goal) all at the same time.
• I like Tommy so far. He has to have some connection to Haven though right?
• "I don't know what's going on with you and Duke, or what he said to you, but whatever it is we'll fix it. We will. Without him." - Nathan ... what even? Is this actually about jealousy? Because I thought it was him being protective and, well, irrational but this really reads as Nathan being jealous of the friendship and bond between Audrey and Duke.
• Why did Harry go to Boston to hunt if there were kids in Haven? Or alternately why didn't he stay away from Haven completely? Did he kill all of his kids outside Haven already?
• I can't believe that Nathan specifically got the tattoo so he had the possibility to kill Duke if he wanted. Yeesh, Nathan.
Wow, that title is so much more unpleasant after actually watching the episode.
• I loved Duke trying to convince Audrey not to give in and accept what she thinks is her destiny. That he chose not to and she can do the same. And then at the end of the episode she basically leads him into doing so. Ouch.
• All the end Audrey/Duke stuff was wonderful, if in a painful way.
First, we have the fact that Duke has confided in Audrey about not wanting to be a killer, about his choice not to follow his family's footsteps. She knows how he feels about it. Yet she still planned and then followed through to get him into a position to kill a Troubled - without telling him. It's a huge betrayal. She broke Duke's trust. Audrey was wrong, full stop, to use Duke in this way.
...But not necessarily wrong in the choice she made. I mean from the beginning she should have told Duke what she wanted and made it his choice. Laid out the facts and let him decide. In the end she did leave it, she did make it his choice - except she knows him, she knows what kind of guy he is and of course he couldn't let those children die.
That said I think Audrey made the right decision here. If this episode was about choice and fate Harry chose to give into his fate. He chose to become a killer. More than that he specifically fathered many children just so that he'd have people to kill/use as organ donors just in case his Trouble manifested. He chose when backed into a corner to kill the child he had raised to save himself.
I think this was actually a very clear and unequivocal case where Duke using his family Trouble to end other families' Troubles is the appropriate thing to do. There was no positive or good side to this trouble. The head of the family was a killer and pretty horrible person who was already dying. There were four kids who would die and many more out there who would have either the potential to manifest this Trouble themselves or pass it down to their children. (Frankly the PTB took the easy route here by making the choice to kill Harry so - acceptable. As moral-right as they could? Harry, a killer, was already going to die and by Duke killing him instead of letting him die slowly he saved not only those kids dying right then but also the countless who could have one day manifested that Trouble.|
It brings me back to a line Audrey had at the beginning of the episode: "I want to help the troubled. It's the one thing I know - I know I want to do." If there is only one true thing Audrey knows about herself it's this. For three lives now, at least, she has returned to Haven to help the Troubled. Her memories are fake but her desire and need to help is very much a part of her. It's both a choice and fate.
... I feel like I was going somewhere with that but now I've lost it.
• I'm pretty impressed with Audrey multitasking skills here - she helped the kids, got rid of a killer/terrible Trouble permanently and managing to push away Duke (as per her goal) all at the same time.
• I like Tommy so far. He has to have some connection to Haven though right?
• "I don't know what's going on with you and Duke, or what he said to you, but whatever it is we'll fix it. We will. Without him." - Nathan ... what even? Is this actually about jealousy? Because I thought it was him being protective and, well, irrational but this really reads as Nathan being jealous of the friendship and bond between Audrey and Duke.
• Why did Harry go to Boston to hunt if there were kids in Haven? Or alternately why didn't he stay away from Haven completely? Did he kill all of his kids outside Haven already?
• I can't believe that Nathan specifically got the tattoo so he had the possibility to kill Duke if he wanted. Yeesh, Nathan.
