The Young and the Restless Thoughts
Dec. 22nd, 2014 12:17 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
iariaToday I ended up watching some Y&R clips from the last couple weeks of the show. Some thoughts:
+ Sharon is likeable! I've accepted that my love and loyalty is always going to be to her even when she does pretty heinous things. I just tend to blame the writers. It's been a hard few years (... 5, 6...) and there has been a lot to blame the writers for. But to be fair to me they really did do a hack job on her. Anyway - based on what I watched I like what they're been doing with her which isn't something I've felt in a long time. I also really love that she isn't completely alone. She has Mariah and Noah and Dylan on her side.
There are things I went 'oh Sharon' about: the fact that she kept pushing Noah (she should have stopped after the first or even second no), her being a little too "poor me" about everything and her trying to get her job at Jabot back. The latter especially was a bad idea and had me shaking my head. After what she did to Jack that is really asking too much of him. Why would she even want to work with Phyllis? That never works for long even when they aren't completely hating each other [I miss that short period of time when they were frenemies, that was the best.] The whole thing is just too unnecessary. If she's worried about having a job then she should find another one.
+ That said I loved the Sharon/Jack scene. It was great. I enjoyed when they were married, I loved their friendship. So I like them having scenes together. I actually thought Sharon did as good of a job as she could have stating her side. She made some really good points - about making mistakes and regret, about addiction/illness, about Nick not considering Faith in his desire for revenge and I liked her appealing to Jack's sympathy by bringing up the situation with Kyle and Diane. However, Jack is under no obligation to ever forgive Sharon or even to help her. I loved this: "People don't have to forgive me. Sick or well we are each responsible for our actions." YES.
- I loved how their scene ended - Sharon thanking him for listening to her after he refused to gainsay Phyllis, Jack telling her that he wasn't without compassion and would make sure she would be given a recommendation, her sincerely thanking him, him telling her that it doesn't mean he'll forgot what she did and her solemn "I guess that's something I will have to learn to live with." How is Jack so great?
- One thing that really stuck out in that exchange was the fact that Jack used the word 'forgotten' instead of 'forgiven'. It makes me think that there is a chance that he could forgive her. That it will never be forgotten but it is something that can be forgiven. I hope so. Almost everyone on soap operas do horrible things. It's just a part of being a soap character and another part of being a soap character is to forgive people who have done terrible or even unforgivable things to you in the past. This scene made me have hope for their future relationship.
+ Nick is 100% wrong with this Faith situation and he needs to get a grip. Regardless of what he says he is totally using Faith to get back at Sharon and his loved ones encouraging his lawsuit is not helping him or Faith. If he thinks Sharon is such a danger to Faith then why the hell is he leaving Faith in Sharon's care so much? It's not about Faith. It's about striking back at Sharon.
- Him trying to blame Sharon when Noah tried to reason with him was ridiculous. Noah was being completely reasonable. It's not like he was trying to get his dad to forgive her or remarry her. Why is it such a surprise to Nick that Noah, who has been so supportive of his mom and her defender multiple times, would take her side? Hell, he's not even really taking her side so much as his baby sister's - how is putting her through a likely to be acrimonious custody battle helping her? How is removing her mother, who she loves and is close to, from her life helping her?
- Also him bitching about how it's all between him and Sharon and that he doesn't want the kids involved or forced to take sides - wth? How does that make sense in his brain? They are automatically involved! Sharon is their mother, Faith is their sister. Of course they're going to have opinions.
+ The Sharon/Dylan friendship was lovely. That made me really happy. [Now please, never ever make them a couple.]
+ Adam is now Justin Hartley! That - is unexpected. A very different look for him. I like JH so - maybe?
+ I'm apparently not over Sharon/Adam because the short scene with them made me have so many feels again. His expression when she walked into the coffeshop! And when he mentioned to Sage that she looked upset. The fact that he stills cares for her makes me ridiculously happy. So many feels. I just really loved their messed up relationship (so messed up) and their real friendship (they could be so great together) and if the show actually got these two together again I'd so be there. I mean he's not a good guy and he is not good for her but I ship them so much. I wonder what Sharon would have done if he's told her the truth about who he was?
+ Unfortunately it looks like he's firmly stuck in a future triangle with Chelsea/Billy. When TPTB tried making Adam/Chelsea this big romantic love they stopped working for me as a couple so meh. I'm not pleased that Adam actually was the one who killed Delia. I was hoping it was someone else though he didn't exactly cover himself in glory in how he dealt with that situation.
+ I can't believe that Adam actually went to Jack and told him the truth. How can he think that Jack would be sympathetic to him? Regardless of how close they were pre-accident (which I wasn't really watching then so, what?) Adam still killed his niece (even if it was an accident). Then this line: "Nobody feels worse about what happened to Delia than I do." WTF?! Sure, he backtracked at Jack's own wtf but he should never said anything like that. Oy. He needs a serious reality check. I'm finding him a lot less sympathetic right now then I usually do.
+ I like Phyllis's new actress. I watched a couple scenes when Phyllis first woke and was surprised to find myself enjoying her again. She was fun then. That said as a character she is not redeemed to me yet. I am not over the lie debacle (possibly never will be). And while she has a lot of reason to be pissed about things her behaviour with Kelly is terrible and unacceptable.
+ Why does the show keep putting Neil in these horrible storylines? Why are Neil and Devon once again in a relationship with the same woman? I can't believe Devon is having an affair with his father's wife. I hate this whole storyline.
+ Sharon is likeable! I've accepted that my love and loyalty is always going to be to her even when she does pretty heinous things. I just tend to blame the writers. It's been a hard few years (... 5, 6...) and there has been a lot to blame the writers for. But to be fair to me they really did do a hack job on her. Anyway - based on what I watched I like what they're been doing with her which isn't something I've felt in a long time. I also really love that she isn't completely alone. She has Mariah and Noah and Dylan on her side.
There are things I went 'oh Sharon' about: the fact that she kept pushing Noah (she should have stopped after the first or even second no), her being a little too "poor me" about everything and her trying to get her job at Jabot back. The latter especially was a bad idea and had me shaking my head. After what she did to Jack that is really asking too much of him. Why would she even want to work with Phyllis? That never works for long even when they aren't completely hating each other [I miss that short period of time when they were frenemies, that was the best.] The whole thing is just too unnecessary. If she's worried about having a job then she should find another one.
+ That said I loved the Sharon/Jack scene. It was great. I enjoyed when they were married, I loved their friendship. So I like them having scenes together. I actually thought Sharon did as good of a job as she could have stating her side. She made some really good points - about making mistakes and regret, about addiction/illness, about Nick not considering Faith in his desire for revenge and I liked her appealing to Jack's sympathy by bringing up the situation with Kyle and Diane. However, Jack is under no obligation to ever forgive Sharon or even to help her. I loved this: "People don't have to forgive me. Sick or well we are each responsible for our actions." YES.
- I loved how their scene ended - Sharon thanking him for listening to her after he refused to gainsay Phyllis, Jack telling her that he wasn't without compassion and would make sure she would be given a recommendation, her sincerely thanking him, him telling her that it doesn't mean he'll forgot what she did and her solemn "I guess that's something I will have to learn to live with." How is Jack so great?
- One thing that really stuck out in that exchange was the fact that Jack used the word 'forgotten' instead of 'forgiven'. It makes me think that there is a chance that he could forgive her. That it will never be forgotten but it is something that can be forgiven. I hope so. Almost everyone on soap operas do horrible things. It's just a part of being a soap character and another part of being a soap character is to forgive people who have done terrible or even unforgivable things to you in the past. This scene made me have hope for their future relationship.
+ Nick is 100% wrong with this Faith situation and he needs to get a grip. Regardless of what he says he is totally using Faith to get back at Sharon and his loved ones encouraging his lawsuit is not helping him or Faith. If he thinks Sharon is such a danger to Faith then why the hell is he leaving Faith in Sharon's care so much? It's not about Faith. It's about striking back at Sharon.
- Him trying to blame Sharon when Noah tried to reason with him was ridiculous. Noah was being completely reasonable. It's not like he was trying to get his dad to forgive her or remarry her. Why is it such a surprise to Nick that Noah, who has been so supportive of his mom and her defender multiple times, would take her side? Hell, he's not even really taking her side so much as his baby sister's - how is putting her through a likely to be acrimonious custody battle helping her? How is removing her mother, who she loves and is close to, from her life helping her?
- Also him bitching about how it's all between him and Sharon and that he doesn't want the kids involved or forced to take sides - wth? How does that make sense in his brain? They are automatically involved! Sharon is their mother, Faith is their sister. Of course they're going to have opinions.
+ The Sharon/Dylan friendship was lovely. That made me really happy. [Now please, never ever make them a couple.]
+ Adam is now Justin Hartley! That - is unexpected. A very different look for him. I like JH so - maybe?
+ I'm apparently not over Sharon/Adam because the short scene with them made me have so many feels again. His expression when she walked into the coffeshop! And when he mentioned to Sage that she looked upset. The fact that he stills cares for her makes me ridiculously happy. So many feels. I just really loved their messed up relationship (so messed up) and their real friendship (they could be so great together) and if the show actually got these two together again I'd so be there. I mean he's not a good guy and he is not good for her but I ship them so much. I wonder what Sharon would have done if he's told her the truth about who he was?
+ Unfortunately it looks like he's firmly stuck in a future triangle with Chelsea/Billy. When TPTB tried making Adam/Chelsea this big romantic love they stopped working for me as a couple so meh. I'm not pleased that Adam actually was the one who killed Delia. I was hoping it was someone else though he didn't exactly cover himself in glory in how he dealt with that situation.
+ I can't believe that Adam actually went to Jack and told him the truth. How can he think that Jack would be sympathetic to him? Regardless of how close they were pre-accident (which I wasn't really watching then so, what?) Adam still killed his niece (even if it was an accident). Then this line: "Nobody feels worse about what happened to Delia than I do." WTF?! Sure, he backtracked at Jack's own wtf but he should never said anything like that. Oy. He needs a serious reality check. I'm finding him a lot less sympathetic right now then I usually do.
+ I like Phyllis's new actress. I watched a couple scenes when Phyllis first woke and was surprised to find myself enjoying her again. She was fun then. That said as a character she is not redeemed to me yet. I am not over the lie debacle (possibly never will be). And while she has a lot of reason to be pissed about things her behaviour with Kelly is terrible and unacceptable.
+ Why does the show keep putting Neil in these horrible storylines? Why are Neil and Devon once again in a relationship with the same woman? I can't believe Devon is having an affair with his father's wife. I hate this whole storyline.
